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SkateFreek · Mar 08, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

I just want to know why D and P get ripped?

They have half of the elite as others, and 3/4 of normal skills. There a reason why they didn't even it up with GWEN?

Pretty soon they are gonna nerf the classes right out of the game

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Darkobra · Mar 08, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32

Because for every new game that comes out, they add new elites to old classes. They are the newest classes, thus, get the least skills.

Miska Bow · Mar 08, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

They may get less skills, but it does not mean that these classes are in any disavantage.

You still get a flexible use of both paragon and dervish.

That's my humble opinion on them.

Tyla · Mar 08, 2008, 03:49 PM // 15:49

TBH I wouldn't mind if they removed the non-core classes...
True they are quite cool, but the design for them...Paragons - unremovable buffs...Dervs -- antiblind(I HATE THE TREE!)...Rits -- unremovable buffs...Assassins -- instagibbing...

But Darkobra already answered the first thing...

Tatile · Mar 08, 2008, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Originally Posted by SkateFreek

They have half of the elite as others, and 3/4 of normal skills. There a reason why they didn't even it up with GWEN?

As said, Derv's and Para's are the youngest classes, so they naturally get less skills (Rit's and Sin's get less skills than Mesmers because they are younger); also it was said by ANet that GW:EN was introducing no new Elite Skills.

HawkofStorms · Mar 08, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Keep in mind that there are a lot more "worthless" skills on say, a mesmer and a warrior. Who uses Leviathan's Sweep?
After a couple years, A.net learned to design D and P skills to be generally more useful.

Steboy93 · Mar 08, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

You have to see that there have been 4 games which have released skills for the core classes, and only three for assa+rit, and only two for para+derv.

Also gwen was just an expansion and just released like 10 skills per profession.

Thorondor Port · Mar 08, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by SkateFreek

Pretty soon they are gonna nerf the classes right out of the game

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...............................................No they wont.

Eldin · Mar 08, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

No reason to go back to Prophecies and toss in Assassin and Ritualist skills.

No reason to go back into Factions and toss in Dervish and Paragon armor.

Get it?

Malice Black · Mar 08, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

The non-core are still some of the most powerful classes if played correctly. And lets face it, a lot of the core skills are pretty redundant.

A lack of redundant skills is a good thing, is it not?

Winterclaw · Mar 08, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

IIRC, about half of the non-core skills in Proph were copied over to NF so it isn't that big a deal.

Stormlord Alex · Mar 08, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by SkateFreek

Pretty soon they are gonna nerf the classes right out of the game

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Here's to hoping.

They get the bone skill-wise because they get retarded game-breaking gimmicks to play with instead.
And they've been around for fewer campaigns.

Proff · Mar 08, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

err have you tried playing dervish or paragon? They really aren't lacking anything, both professions own.

RedNova88 · Mar 08, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Proff

err have you tried playing dervish or paragon? They really aren't lacking anything, both professions own.

I have to agree with this. Even with the recent nerf to Mystic Regen, the Dervish profession is still incredibly self sufficient and deadly.

And Paragons... Well, one word usually sums it up if you fight a good one in PvP, "ouch".

Lack of skills doesn't necessarily mean a class is weaker, it just means slightly less options. Which isn't entirely bad considering some of the skills in the core professions aren't used for the most part and are at times laughed upon.

Perkunas · Mar 08, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Each chapter is a stand alone. Warriors e.g. got the core plus chapter specific. If you look at the chapter ones, they are same as the others, just different names. Because the Dervs and Paras have only NF skills, there are no Dupes in the other chapters. The Rits and Sins probably have less than the other six core also.

saleenman · Mar 08, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

ya i play a derv an i love my invinci derv build it pisses ppl off in pvp soooooooooooooooooo bad

Axel Zinfandel · Mar 09, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

I wouldn't mind, and actually would love, if they came out with a little 'skill pack' almost like how they came out with Bonus Mission Pack. It'd net the company money, and we get more skills to play with...

but there comes the problem of how to get these skills. :/ can't exactly just throw them in with all the monsters in Proph/Fact/NF/GW:EN

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 09, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Here's to hoping.

They get the bone skill-wise because they get retarded game-breaking gimmicks to play with instead.
And they've been around for fewer campaigns.

That's pretty negative, I always though of you as a "glass half full" type.

Anyway, creating/releasing new skills must be the most difficult job at ANet. It must take TONs of testing to release a new skill, and they still end up nerfing/buffing them later because of the creativity of GW players. It seems over the years, ANet's ability to balance skills has been more finely honed, which is why the newer professions need less elite skills.

Arkantos · Mar 09, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00

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That's pretty negative, I always though of you as a "glass half full" type.

Negative, but true. The 4 new classes have brought nothing but broken imba gimmicks.

Draginvry · Mar 09, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

The 4 new classes have brought nothing but broken imba gimmicks.

I'm going to have to agree here. Dervish is OMG enchants. Paragon is OMG shouts. Assassins are OMG instagibs. The only class that possibly has any usefull variety is the Ritualist.

Although I still love playing dervish because I like the scythe. But they are really nothing but wannabe wammos pretending to be gods. zOMG I'm Balthazar!